Curiously raising an eyebrow...

topic posted Mon, August 15, 2005 - 12:44 AM by  @leksonder
What types of exercises and techniques do you recommend to improve ones gaze into another's eyes?
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    Re: Curiously raising an eyebrow...

    Mon, November 14, 2005 - 4:12 PM
    Good question.. this tribe has kinda died out.. But I find this topic one that MOST people dont know enough about... Including myself..

    Hopefully someone can come back.. and give us some good feedback?
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      Tue, November 15, 2005 - 12:04 AM
      Dang - I remember looking at this thread as I was getting ready for Burning Man and meant to come back and post a few. After all - I started the tribe so one might imagine I have a few ideas!

      Especially since I teach a class in Eye Gazing as well!

      Here are a few ideas:

      Exercise 1:
      Set a timer for 20-30 minutes or some predetermined length of time. Sit across from your partner and hold hands. Both of you close your eyes. When you feel calm and centered squeeze you partners hands. Once both of you have indicated your readiness open your eyes and connect. If either of you looks away or either of you closes your eyes for longer than a blink then both of you close your eyes and you recenter. Once you are recentered begin the process again. Always look into just one eye as much as possible - back and forth eye gazing lessens the energy and can be distracted. Preferably look into the dominant eye (see dominant eye exercise.)

      You may end up with multiple short (but hopefully increasing length) eye gazing sessions or you may have one big long one or several fairly long ones.

      Exercise 2
      Find your dominant eye as follows: Hold up one finger at arms length. Align it with an object across the room. First close one eye and then the other. Your finger will jump either a lot or a little when you close one eye. The eye that is open when it jumps the least is your dominant eye. This is the eye that you primarily see out of and thus is the window to your soul.

      Exerise 3
      Group exercise - Connect individually with someone for a few moments. Share deep connection and thank each other. You can add in several ideas of one way sharing as well. One person shares something - what they see in the other person, what they are feeling right now, gratitude about something, etc. The other person only receives and says "Thank you."

      I've probably got a few more if I think about it but need to sleep now.

      Enjoy!
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        Tue, November 15, 2005 - 9:28 AM
        i knew you wouldnt let us down sweetie! Thanks!
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          Tue, November 15, 2005 - 8:32 PM
          I just found out about this tribe. I've written a number of books about the role of the body in spiritual practice. A few years back I published a book about eye gazing entitled Rumi, Gazing at the Beloved. The 12th century mystic, poet, and originator of the dance of the whirling dervish Jallalludin Rumi was a GREAT eye gazer. He and his great friend Shams would go into retreat for weeks and months at a time, entering into the practice for hours on end. That's been my experience as well, on a couple of very fortunate occasions. If you are drawn to the magic of the gaze, you may enjoy looking at my book (available through amazon). I realize this is blatantly self-promotional, but there is a lot of information there that I think you would find valuable and fascinating.
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    Sun, November 27, 2005 - 9:26 AM
    Ok, I get what this is about, however, I have something else to ask--if anyone is still out there.

    I'm able to see into one's soul without sitting and staring and waiting and concentrating and all of that. Maybe it's a part of the energy abilities I have (gift, I should say).

    Does anyone else have this ability. I haven't had a person say I was wrong yet.
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      Sun, November 27, 2005 - 9:51 AM
      I'm here, MJ. (Aren't I always?!)

      I don't have that ability, but it sounds intriguing. How would you describe it, and what "feeds" it? (voice, vibe, meditation while near the person,...)
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        Sun, November 27, 2005 - 9:58 AM
        It feels like what that person is feeling. Just like when I do energy work. The emotions sometimes come right through me. I can feel the vibrations of some and others make me break out in a sweat. Some people have such strong, buried and/or pent up emotions that it feels like it knocks me over. Men seem to have a lot of pent up sexual energy.

        A lot of times, with the eyes, things just come to me.

        For example, there are the things going on in the moment. Meeting a new date. I see the nervous anxiety.

        Another example, a comfortable and relaxed friend. I see into their soul and find things within them that they recognize or are surprised to hear the words finally said (since we can all be in denial about some things).

        Hope that makes sense. I'm just curious if anyone else out there can relate to this.
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          Sun, November 27, 2005 - 2:50 PM
          Melissa,
          No you are not the only one that can do this. I can read people's eyes fairly well as well though I do need to take time to notice it usually unless it's a quit surface issue.

          Mostly though I wait until they are actually wanting to show me because for the most part I feel like it's an invasion to just flat out "read" someone unless they've given me permission or are gazing into my eyes deeply. There's also the issue of energy transfer and putting my energy deeper into the to read them. That's the part that feels like an invasion.

          I'm also quite adept at doing this without even looking at eyes but just through conversation and body language. I tend to use that method more frequently because then it's deductive rather than "reading" and someone usually feels a little more comfortable with it because it's based on their visible communication rather than my intuition and "reading" skill.

          Jsut my thoughts.
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            Sun, November 27, 2005 - 2:55 PM
            Hey, thanks for the feedback. When I said:

            "Another example, a comfortable and relaxed friend. I see into their soul and find things within them that they recognize or are surprised to hear the words finally said (since we can all be in denial about some things)."

            I didn't mention that it was with consent. I totally understand and agree with you all of that.

            Are you able to tell things about people from their photos?
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              Sun, November 27, 2005 - 3:36 PM
              Hmmm...I've never really tried that.

              Mostly my readings are purely intuitive and I can't always tell you where it comes from - eyes, conversation, body language, higher spirit, etc. It's just something I can do when I pay attention and occassionally when the signs are big enough that it just catches my attention.
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                Mon, November 28, 2005 - 1:05 AM
                Hmm, physiognomy is the art of face reading. One can gather many insights from being aware of correlating personality traits, however strictly obtaining info from ones gaze is of interest here. Can you add to this topic with any particular experiences?
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                  Mon, November 28, 2005 - 9:44 AM
                  I've rarely been wrong on things I've picked up intuitvely from studying one's pic. There are all of the things mentioned above that are considered. Of course it helps to know a little about someone, but it isn't necessary.

                  I was just doing this very thing last night with "L's" family Thanksgiving pics he brought back home.
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                    Mon, November 28, 2005 - 9:54 AM
                    I think it's really about a clarity and learning of human emotion, need, and understanding. I've spent most of my life having deep emotionally revealing conversations with people and I've spent most of my life having deep emotional investigations of myself.

                    I'm not an expert on human emotion nor am I a therapist in any measure of the word - but I have gottent to the point in my understanding of the emotional processes of our culture that I can usually tell someone what they've already experienced, what they are experiencing now, and what they will experience in the near future as they move through their emotions. That understanding allows me to pick up on very little clues or energy signatures and figure out what's going on with fairly good accuracy.

                    Mostly I think it's just about paying attention sometimes!
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                Mon, November 28, 2005 - 9:42 AM
                <"Mostly my readings are purely intuitive and I can't always tell you where it comes from - eyes, conversation, body language, higher spirit, etc. It's just something I can do when I pay attention and occassionally when the signs are big enough that it just catches my attention."

                We're so much alike that way. I don't I would have said a single thing differently. I'm glad to know you. I looked at your pics and it seems you guys are a lot of fun as well!

                Cheers--Melissa Jade

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